26 June 2007 ~ 5 Comments

Saddleback – Morning One

We made it.  Conference started this morning.  We walked in a tad bit late, and to be honest, I wasn’t really diggin the worship vibe when I got there.  Great musicianship, just a bit "contemporary" for me.  I like a little edge, but after some time I started enjoying it more.  It was nice having a few peeps come in and lead one of their songs, Brenton Brown, Matt Maher.

Then Rick Warren started with the opening session, talking about the Character of a Worship Leader.  I haven’t had a lot of experience with Warren outside of Purpose Driven books.  After listening to him speak, I really gained some more respect for the guy.  Not that I didn’t respect him before, just more after hearing his heart.  here’s a few key things he shared:

Rickwarren_2 The Character of a Worship Leader

BIG IDEA: If you want God’s anointing on your life, you must build your life on integrity, humility, and generosity.  They are the antidotes to the most common traps that leaders fall into.

The three biggest temptations of leadership:

  • Lust of the flesh – need to feel good
  • Lust of the eyes – need to have more
  • Pride of life – need to be (position, status)

Integrity, humility, and generosity are the polar opposites of these temptations.

Integrity:  You will be tempted to use your ministry to make yourself feel good physically, emotionally, and spiritually.  You need to be whole in Christ.
Generosity:  The only antidote to the problem of get, get, get is to give things (and yourself) away.
Humility:  Humility is NOT denying your strengths.  It is being honest about your weaknesses.  False humility  = pride.

Great Quotes:

  • "You’re not trying to get people to sing on too, you’re trying to get people to love God more."
  • "Being a worship leader is the most important task in life.  If God has called you to be a worship leader don’t step down and be the Pres. Of the US…or any other tempting job offer.  You’re doing the most important thing there is."
  • "If you aren’t taking a day off every week, you’re breaking the 10 commandments."
  • "I don’t care if you love to preach.  Do you love the people you preach to?"
  • "Humility doesn’t mean you thin less of yourself, it means you think less of yourself.  You do this by thinking about other people as much as possible."

Tim Hughes

After a break, we had an awesome time of worship with Tim Hughes.  I have to admit, I was enjoying it at first, but not really "into it."  Then he came to Awesome God.  He really lost me there.  That song is so old and bleh to me.

But then I was reminded how much of an effect media can have in worship in making something fresh.  In the middle of the song, an excerpt of the E.V. Hill "That’s My King" sermon was played.  That pulled me in and the song was fresh.  And from there, I just went deeper into worship as Tim led.  Great morning!

Now I’m sitting in a room listening to Tommy Walker and his pastor share about their relationship in ministry.  Lovin it.

I’ll keep updating as the week goes.  It’s helpful to me to sharing the things I’m learning, so hopefully you enjoy it too.  Check out what Rich has to say, too.  I’ve been here with him and a few guys from his church.  Also feel free to check out the conference blog.

5 Responses to “Saddleback – Morning One”

  1. MrPages 26 June 2007 at 10:16 pm Permalink

    That’s well said!
    I don’t think it’s wrong to be affected by style or genre of songs, per se. I also think that I see you have your head wrapped around worship in such a way that the phrases you used make much more sense now. (That sentence doesn’t).
    There is danger in using emotion and atmosphere to evoke “worship”. Even Britney Spears can evoke emotion and tears and calm and agitation and all of those various things with music and atmosphere. The danger in using them in churches is that people learn to either require them to worship, or think that that IS worship.
    We’ve started a discussion about worship and what it is at http://www.wonderfulpages.com/wonderfulworship/ and I’d love to have you come by and read and perhaps join us.
    Thanks for a chance to talk, I hope I wasn’t too forward.

  2. Ben 26 June 2007 at 7:15 pm Permalink

    Hey Bobby,
    Wishing I was there! Thanks for posting your notes.
    Great response to the great question about dealing with musical styles.
    I’ll be watching for more posts.

  3. Joel Klampert 26 June 2007 at 6:49 pm Permalink

    2 things… that my king is SM Lockridge. http://cecworship.wordpress.com/2006/09/18/my-king-dr-sm-lockridge/
    and 2 the best way for me to comment on freshness in worship is with something I already wrote on http://cecworship.wordpress.com/2007/04/19/i-hate-that-song/
    great post by the way I am surprised Hes doing Awesome God. fresh or not I never like it. lol

  4. bobby 26 June 2007 at 4:39 pm Permalink

    Great question Mr. Pages. Really probably worth a whole post of itself sometimes.
    I’m sure you mean that we should always worship no matter what because it’s a spirit issue, not style. But even that limits the view of “worship” when we recognize the entirety of “worship” is not even music.
    When it comes to music, I’m sorry, but I am effected by style and genre of songs.
    If this weren’t the case, why would we spend so much time fashioning our music and services, and why so many styles. Why don’t we all just go to a “traditional” conference and sing “hymns.” There are some songs that I have trouble worshiping to. Shout To The Lord is so dated for me and was so overplayed that it is a struggle to worship to for me.
    God says to sing a new song to the Lord. I think that’s because he’s doing new things and a “fresh” expression of worship can help draw us in closer.
    The sound clip that played clearly evoked emotion from people as seen by the reaction, and it effected our worship experience.
    So, do I “worship” God regardless of my feelings and experience? Absolutely. My life is his. Can certain experiences, atmospheres, and music manifest the presence of God in a special way that allows me to sense God’s presence in a special way? Absolutely.
    Let’s keep chattin though. Thoughts? Anyone else? Agree? Disagree?

  5. MrPages 26 June 2007 at 3:47 pm Permalink

    Some great quotes, thanks.
    I do have to ask this though, as someone who is currently struggling with what worship is and what it is supposed to be:
    The phrases “That song is so old and bleh to me.” “That pulled me in and the song was fresh.” caught my attention and I’ve sat here and pondered and prayed about them. I’m curious to hear them from a worship leader.
    What does “freshness” have to do with worshipping God?

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